Now I'm not sure where my response fits in better...
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Originally posted by flaming fanatic:
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Originally posted by smilingbluebelly:
I don't know about any of this stuff..
Just please let them come back to the SF Bay Area soon (sans naked women).
ditto. Not sure though there's much I haven't seen. Except the naked ladies which I think would have been cool if they had kept it to the first show and left it at that. I hate to say it but they (the band) keep losing me and my interest, bit by bit. Perhaps I will get excited again when they come out with their next album. At least I hope so-I miss having a musical obsession. At this point I wouldn't travel any significant distance to see them. Perhaps I burned out or perhaps it's the fact that every time I use my Kraft salad dressing I think of them. Fuckin' shame.
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Originally posted by flaming fanatic:
but it is so. And I don't know who made all of those questionable decisions last year and into this year, but I'd love to know why. Was it for the money? Was it for fun? Was it for exposure? I certainly don't think it's fun to have my favorite band associated with the likes of camel, salad dressing, land rover and the like. As a result the songs they used have been cheapened....and as for political speeches being delivered on-stage-save it for the politicos. You can't take money from the devil and preach that the devil is wrong at the same time. This has ruined a lot of the album for me actually-can't listen to it anymore. again.....fucking shame. Perhaps the naked ladies dancing onstage during the show will keep their popularity-cheap.
Lips songs have been in commercials for years, how is it just becoming a problem for you in the last year? Because it happened a lot?
Yes, they did it for the money.
Why go through all this again? Was the message “please come to SF, as long as you behave how I want you to?” Was it just to spread the disenchantment around? Looking for people to share in your outrage? Maybe at one point in your life the Lips were your thing. Now you've clearly headed down different paths. You're sick of the music, the setlists, the banter, the stage show, the use of backing tracks, the band's personal and business decisions. You've already gone to the band and personally expressed your concerns with no results. I'd sincerely recommend finding a band which better fits your ideals and not relying on one thats not making you happy to be your musical obsession.
I understand it’s a discussion board and its here for fans to express their opinions, good and bad. At this point we all know where you stand and we've all made our own decisions where we stand, and the Lips just keep plugging on. If they lose us all, let ‘em fail. What do you want? Everyone to join together and complain so much that they see the error of their ways and change everything? Are you really going to respect an “artist” that lets other people dictate who they are and what they do?
Maybe the majority of their fans do agree with you. Maybe they are losing their following and/or they are out of ideas and these commercials/ corporate sponsored shows/ naked girls on stage are their last desperate attempt to stay in the business and gain exposure with people who haven’t figured out how hypocritical and boring they are yet. They are making their own informed decisions. Whatever happens won’t be anyone’s fault but their own. If at the end of the day, they made enough money to make a living putting on the show they wanted to put on, and they are comfortable with what they chose to do to make that happen, maybe that will be enough for them. I’m sorry it’s not what you wanted for them. I’m sure Wayne would love to see you happy, I’d love to see you at shows and be happy, but I think he’s going to keep doing what makes him happy either way. I think he’s always been pretty up front about that being the goal.